Hydro engineer Radar Bear said in an interview with Babbitt: "I want to say that the real user of DeFi, maybe only 3,000 people in the world? I may count one. These users are either old-fashioned leeks or programmers, DeFi The distance from the masses is still far away. But this distance is not caused by the product level, but its ideology is difficult to obtain the support of the sovereign government. This has caused two characteristics of defi: 1. The use of the crowd is only a small circle ; 2. Can be stable for a long time."